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Monday town hall to delve into concerns of Worcester’s Black community
A young woman speaks to supporters ahead of a rally earlier this summer in Worcester. [T&G Staff File Photo/Christine Peterson]

By Scott O’Connell 
Telegram & Gazette Staff 
Posted Aug 3, 2020 at 12:01 AM

WORCESTER — A local organization of Black city residents will host a town hall meeting Monday to air the Black community’s concerns on police reform, education and other issues here.

The virtual forum will take place on Zoom and also be streamed live at beginning at 6 p.m., according to the group, called Black Families Together.

“This is a unique opportunity to hear a combined consensus” reached by Black Worcester residents on the most pressing issues facing their community, said Stacey Luster, one of the organization’s representatives.

Black Families Together has been forming a priority list for Monday’s town hall since June via videoconferences with Black people in the city, Luster added.
“This (forum) is a deliberate attempt to come together as a Black community” and identify its common issues, she said — something “we haven’t done as effectively a Black community in Worcester for quite some time.”

While the group has come up with eight priority areas in total for Monday’s meeting, Luster said there is particular emphasis on local education, police reform, and diversity hiring in the city.

Other issues identified by Black Families Together for the town hall are Black business ownership, disparate health outcomes for Black residents, access to loans and grants, and Black participation in local elections and government.
The organization is hoping Monday’s forum will not only have a large audience of Black Worcester residents, but also public officials, who will have a rare chance to hear the collective concerns of the city’s Black community.

Luster said the timing of the event is due in large part to the nationwide discussion currently happening on a range of topics affecting Black Americans, particular police brutality. While many of those issues have already entered public discussions here in Worcester, she added, “it’s important that Black Worcester voices be part of them.”

“We believe we have a consensus about what the priorities are,” she said, based on the surveys, breakout conversations, and other efforts Black Families Together has taken to reach out to the city’s Black population, with the primary goal of “coming together to reflect on the important issues of our time.”

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Black Families Together seeking School and Police Reform
Stacey Luster at a meeting in September [T&G Staff File Photo/Rick Cinclair]

By Scott O’Connell 
Telegram & Gazette Staff 
Posted Aug 3, 2020 at 8:55 PM
Updated Aug 4, 2020 at 5:13 PM

WORCESTER – From removing police from schools to reforming the city’s chief diversity officer position, a local group representing Black city residents laid out a list of changes the black community would like to see in Worcester at a town hall meeting Monday evening.

The organization, called Black Families Together, was joined on the virtual conference by local and state officials, including Police Chief Steven Sargent, Mayor Joseph Petty, Superintendent Maureen Binienda, City Manager Edward Augustus, U.S. Rep. James McGovern, and several state lawmakers.

The recommendations the group presented at the meeting, which focused primarily on education, criminal justice reform and diversity hiring, represented weeks’ of feedback from Black people in Worcester that members collected in Zoom meetings, according to a representative.

“This was a listening tour. We really wanted our public officials to hear from the Black community,” said Celia Blue, who served as moderator, at the conclusion of the meeting, adding that Black Families Together will continue to meet to delve further into the issues raised Monday night.

The town hall, which ran for about 45 minutes and was broadcast on Unity Radio WUTY-FM 97.9, was mostly dedicated to organization members relaying the host of reforms they had identified, starting with improvements to the city Police Department.

Presenter Cassandra Bensahih said the group would like to see, among other changes, police officers removed from schools – an especially requested reform from the Black community, she said – limits on police use of force; bias-free policing tactics; and a greater level of accountability from the Police Department, particularly in terms of sharing data about brutality incidents.
In addition, “every police officer should be required to attend anti-racism and anti-bigoted workshops at least twice a year,” she said.

On the next topic, education, presenter Sha-Asia Medina said Black Families Together wants the city School Department to include more Black history in the curriculum; to reduce the number of Black students on IEPs (individualized education programs, given to students with special needs); and to make available more data on suspension rates, staff demographics, and other metrics showing how Black students are faring in the school system.

Medina also repeated the request to end the school resource officer program, which places a full-time officer at each of the five comprehensive high schools in Worcester, and called for more general cultural competency measures to ensure staff and administration are more effectively understanding the experiences of Black students.

“We have to be willing to stand in the discomfort of what’s happening to Black students” in the Worcester schools, she said. Medina said Black students often deal with trauma, in particular from witnessing Black people’s treatment by police, that they bring to school with them, “with the hope we can find adequate solutions.”

Lastly, presenter Stacey Luster detailed the group’s platform on diversity hiring in the city, which is focused primarily on revamping the city diversity office. Because of the chief diversity officer’s lack of standing within the city manager’s Cabinet and insufficient support staff and resources, “the position was structured for failure from the beginning,” Luster said. She pointed out that the city is looking for its third diversity officer in five years.
“We request we reimagine the chief diversity officer,” she said, including by having the position report directly to Augustus, and allowing Black Families Together to be involved in the selection process.

The town hall meeting wrapped up with submitted comments by several city residents, who expressed frustration with the treatment of Worcester’s Black community by the police and schools.

The Rev. Clyde Talley, who opened the meeting Monday night, closed it, however, with a message of optimism.
“I believe something can be done,” he said. “If we all work together, we can make a change ... I believe it is this generation that will make that change.”

Scott O’Connell can be reached at Scott.O’ Follow him on Twitter @ScottOConnellTG


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WooSox Community Skating Event at the Worcester Common Oval

The WooSox will be hosting a community skating event in the Worcester Common Oval on Thursday, February 2 from 6pm-8pm for members of the Worcester Red Sox Booster Club.

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Pirates Sign OL Wilson Bell

By Mick Moninghoff
December 9, 2019
Worcester, MA

The Massachusetts Pirates have signed offensive lineman Wilson Bell for the 2020 season. Bell played this past year with the Baltimore Brigade of the Arena Football League. A former NCAA National Champion, Bell played in both the ACC and SEC and signed a contract with the Buffalo Bills in 2018.

A former member of the Jacksonville Sharks, Bell said it was a 2018 postgame conversation with two-time All National Arena League defensive end JD Griggs that sparked his interest in Massachusetts.

“I heard about the organization when I played against the Pirates,” he said. A few of the players told me they had a good thing going (in Massachusetts). I’m just so grateful to still be playing football. I’m going to be 25 this year. A lot of people don’t get this opportunity so I’m grateful to be playing, that people are interested in keeping me around and that they believe in me. I want to maximize my potential and be able to influence guys around me in a good way, a positive way. I want everybody to have just as much fun as I’m having on the field. I try to bring that energy to whatever team I’m on,” he added.

Pirates President and General Manager Jawad Yatim is hopeful that Bell plays as well for the Pirates as he did in Jacksonville.

"I remember Wilson from our first season when he was playing for Jacksonville and he was impressive every time we played one another. I thought he was one of the best players in the league that year, and to be able to add someone like that to our offensive front is a great move in my opinion. We’re certainly glad to have Wilson on board," Yatim said.

Bell arrived at Florida State in 2013 and played in two games before suffering a knee injury. He took the season as a redshirt year as the Seminoles went on to claim the Atlantic Coast Conference title and the BCS National Championship with a 34-31 win over Auburn. The lessons he learned that season are still with him today.

“It was amazing. When I was a Florida State, I’d never been around so many leaders on one team and that’s how we got there. Everybody wanted to see everybody make it. The leaders on that team made you want to practice. We were always prepared for business. That was my first experience as a freshman in college and that (attitude) is what I have taken with me. That’s what I was looking for and I want to bring that to any team that I am on. It was an amazing first experience,” he said.

After seeing action in two games in 2014, Bell started every game on the offensive line for the Seminoles in 2015. He helped pave the way for running back Dalvin Cook, who rushed for single season records of 1,691 rushing yards and 1,935 all-purpose yards. He also blocked for Cook’s record setting day as he gained 266 yards and three touchdowns in a 34-14 win over the University of South Florida.

In 2016 he started just five games and the following season enrolled at Auburn as a graduate transfer where he was used in a backup role. Still the Eight Mile, AL native did draw attention as he was named to play in both the SPIRAL Tropical Bowl and the College Gridiron Showcase.

Many believe that the South East Conference is the best in college football and Bell, who stands in at 6’5”, 335 lbs. concurs.

“Yes, everybody is big in the SEC. Don’t ever think that you are the biggest guy on the field. You might get away with that in the ACC; you might have a few guys who are undersized who are quick, but in the SEC, everybody is big and that was an eye-opening moment for me. I had no idea that the competition was so much better. Some teams might not win as much like Ole Miss or Mississippi State, but everyone is well trained, and they know what they are doing. I didn’t fear going to the NFL after my experience in the SEC,” Bell said.

The NFL did not come calling right away. In 2017 Bell signed with the Jacksonville Sharks where he started three games. In 2018 he signed and had a look from the Buffalo Bills. There he learned that physical size was not the number one asset.

“It’s less about brawn and more about brains. People last longer in the NFL because they know what they are doing, they know how to be coached and technique is everything. I was the biggest guy there and I thought I was going to over-power some vets, but these guys were good with their hands. They had their technique down that prevails overall. You don’t have to be the biggest guy but know what you’re doing, be coachable, and have good technique. That’s what I took away from that.” Wilson said.

After his stint in Buffalo, Wilson returned to the Sharks. In 2019 he signed with the Baltimore of the AFL and appeared in three games.  Bell, who majored in writing, editing and media at FSU has been putting those skills to use, currently working as a teacher in an alternative school, teaching classes in photo shop and Microsoft Office.

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Local Coach Receives Prestigious Honor

SUTTON – Sutton High School boys’ head coach Mike Elster has earned one of his profession’s highest
The United Soccer Coaches, a 30,000-member national organization, with members from the youth, high
school, college and professional ranks has presented him with its High School Coach of Significance
The honor recognizes members “who are coaching for character, and using the soccer field to teach life
lessons at the high school level.” Honorees “make an impact within their schools and communities well
beyond their records of wins and losses.”
Each state honors one coach from its ranks. Coach Elster was selected for Massachusetts. “These
outstanding coaches represent the ultimate spirit of coaching while making an impact on player’s lives in
all aspects of their core development both on and off the field,” says Rusty Oglesby, United Soccer
Coaches high school advocacy chair.”
Elster, who is in his 12th year as Sutton’s head coach, 15 th year on the Sutton Youth Soccer Board –
including the last 5 as president, owner of Fortis FC, LLC premier soccer club, and owner of Elster
Training, says he is “humbled” by this honor. “In some ways, this award is the most meaningful of my
career because it recognizes what I believe is most important about coaching. The vast majority of the
students that I coach will not play in college. My goal is to help them develop into good leaders, good
people, and good citizens to have positive impacts on their families, places of employment, and
Robert Magner, one of Coach Elster’s former players and assistant coach since 2012, states, “Mike’s
record as a coach speaks for itself, but his impact as a leader and as a coach in the community is what
determines his worth.” Rob has learned from his mentor that you as an individual can always give more,
to your team, to your family, and to your community. He says that “coach has had a huge impact on my
life first as a player and as a young man, and I appreciate the chance to still learn from him as one of his
assistant coaches.” He reminisces that the team will often read a poem titled Push before big games to
remind themselves, “your biggest challenge isn't someone else; it's the ache in your lungs, the burning in
your legs, & the voice inside you that yells can't, but you don't listen, you push harder.”
Ryan Elster, Mike’s son, former player and current assistant coach knows firsthand what is most important
to his father is not the state championships or awards but rather the impact in life he can make on all of
his players as they make their way through the program. He shares, “Immediately when you enter the
varsity program, principles of leadership, community service, motivation, and the importance of team are
taught in a variety of ways. For example, at the beginning of the season we set goals and not just related
to soccer. We made goals for grades, behavior, yellow cards for dissent, and sportsmanship. He read
articles, told stories, had us watch videos, and more that taught us different lessons on leadership, service
to others, hard work, commitment, and character.” Coach Elster also strives to stay relevant and keep it
light to make his points. For example you may see coach wearing a Yoda mask or wearing a Hulk t-shirt
because although Yoda is small in size, his wisdom and quiet leadership make him a prominent figure
while Hulk, on the other hand, is a symbol of strength, courage, and durability.
Justin Rothermich, one of Coach Elster’s most talented high school soccer players, echoes the important
lessons that Coach taught him about what it means to be a student-athlete on and off the field. “He
showed me that being a leader doesn’t mean just performing on the field, it means leading by example in
your academics and community. He illustrated that the needs of others and the team far outweighs the

needs of the individual, a life lesson I brought with me beyond my high school years”, Rothermich shared.
He sums up the impact Coach has had on the Sutton program and its players, “It is safe to say that
without Coach Elster, Sutton High School soccer would not have had the success that it has had, and I
would not be the player or the man I am today.”
Coach Elster has served the town’s recreational program since 2003. Sutton Youth Soccer vice president,
Shawn Rogan, points out that “the town program’s board positions are volunteer and even though Mike
has a soccer club to run and a varsity team to coach, he spends countless hours ensuring children who
don’t have the resources or skill to play at the club level have access to a competitive, fun program. We
have approximately 500 kids who get their start in soccer because of this program. Considering today’s
“win at all cost” attitude, how refreshing is it to have a person like Coach Elster who looks at what is best
for the young person over what is best for the bottom dollar?”
In addition, Coach Elster has his varsity boys’ team lead free clinics for Sutton Youth Soccer players to
remind them the importance of giving back to your community. This is fun for the young players but also
reminds the High School students that they are always role models to kids in our community – both on
and off the field. Brian Jankins, Sutton Youth Soccer boys coordinator, reflects “A resume that includes 4
State Championships would typically be the most significant line item for many but in the case of Mike it is
just a small part of who he is. He leads by example and develops champions on the field and more
importantly champions in life. His players truly understand giving back to the community. I realized very
quickly that his coaching goes way beyond creating good players; it’s all about developing young people
into becoming the best version of themselves.”
Coach Elster has not confined his impact on the Sutton community to just its soccer programs.
Understanding our communities fight with cancer, in 2004 he and his family began putting together an
annual tournament each season called “Kicks for Cancer”. The Sutton Youth Soccer U6 and U8 teams
participate in multiple 3v3 games throughout the day. Both the girls and boys varsity soccer teams at
Sutton coach and officiate the games. The money raised from the event is then donated in honor of
someone who in the Sutton community who has been affected by cancer to the charity of their choice.
One example of the good work done through this event involved a young girl in town who was struck with
cancer. The funds that year were donated to a room at the UMASS hospital where parents and children
could go during treatment.  Lily’s Pad was formed with the help of the donations created through the Kicks
for Cancer tournament.  Every year it is a new story but Coach Elster and his players are a constant
Dan Delongchamp, Sutton High School Assistant Principal, states, “It is important to know that Michael
doesn’t coach with the primary focus of winning championships. Mike is acutely aware that he is raising
young men. His players learn countless lessons on community service, leadership, and giving back to
society through this experience.”
His son Ryan, summarizes his father’s impact as, “He is not just a soccer coach, but a teacher whose
responsibility is developing the next generation. He never stops learning or finding new ways to do this
which is why he will always be successful. Of course, success for him can be defined by how far the team
goes and what they win, but more important for him is the impact that the players have within their
community and people who they come across after they have left the program. By influencing the
community of Sutton in a positive way, he has inspired and educated his players to take all of what they
have learned and share it with others.” This is what it means to be a coach of significance.

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Interview with Executive Producer & Founder Ernie Floyd

This article originally appeared on Worcester Magazine

Ernest “Ernie” Floyd loves nothing more than hearing happy people on the radio. As executive producer of Unity Radio and the host of his own evening listening program, Smooth Grooves, Floyd is motivated to create an avenue through which local residents can contribute to the community.

What is your history with the city of Worcester?

I was recruited to come to Worcester through basketball as a result of my high school years in Boston. I was born and raised in Roxbury and I attended Boston English High School. The basketball coach greeted me when I walked through the door on the first day. I was only an OK player at the time. I had the height, he had the interest, and I worked hard. By junior year, I made the team. At that time, they had scouting reports that regularly went around the city. Once my name was on there, the word was out. Holy Cross was one of 250 schools that recruited me. They sought me out more than anyone else. Villanova, Western Kentucky and Marshall were all final choices of mine, but I decided to go to Holy Cross because I wanted to stay close. My mom was alive at the time and I wanted to her to see me play.

Can you describe your career thus far?

I pursued a tryout with the Milwaukee Bucks and a position at ESPN before ending up in Europe. I eventually came back to Worcester from Dijon, France and got reacclimated. I wanted to go into communications. In 1987, Greater Media Cable was introducing cable advertising in the area and I went into sales. My third year in, I knew it was time to reach out and support the community. I had spoken to young people throughout my time in college, so I knew I wanted to get involved with You Inc. and the Boys and Girls Club. I had passion for empowering young people through media and I saw that the Worcester Youth Center was going through a lot of challenges within the community. Participants of the Worcester Youth Center were sometimes misunderstood. I wanted to project a positive image of who they really were. I formed Pride Productions and we launched the Youth Unity half-hour television show. I taught students at the Ionic Ave. Boys and Girls Club how to interview, operate a camera and edit. Our show was produced out of Shrewsbury Public Access at the time. They welcomed me when I wanted to pursue the idea. They ran with it for a good strong year. Greater Media Channel 3 turned into Charter and we ran it on Channel 3. In ’95, I received the Visions Community Award as a Young Leader. I remember a gentleman calling me on behalf of the Telegram and Gazette to tell me that I won and I hung up on him because I thought it was a joke. On my mission to support young people in the community, I had always felt backlash and I received opposition. I was constantly on the radio or in the paper speaking my mind. The word “teen” had a bad connotation in those days. That marked a rough period in reference to how the city was tackling youth issues. The city wasn’t ready for a youth revolution because of the negativity associated with Worcester’s youth at the time. When the Telegram called me about the award, it was one of the first positive turns for me. Sen. John Kerry was the honorary speaker. We springboarded into the community with open discussion after that.

How did you come to launch Unity radio?

In 2012, we took a look at the media landscape and realized we felt good about Pride Productions coming back through radio. We wanted to add to the growth of the city. A mutual friend of mine was operating an internet radio station out of his garage. I was interested and intrigued by it. I asked various questions. I had a little radio experience announcing games at Holy Cross. I said to myself, if you’re going to do something, you’ve got to do it yourself. I caught it just right, because the FCC at the time was in the moratorium for radio licenses and they were only going to open the window to apply for licenses for nonprofit institutions. I raised enough capital to hire an engineer and an attorney. Fortunately, we were able to receive approval. That was 2013. We operated through the internet from 2013-2017. As an internet radio station, we were graciously housed at Becker College. I became an adjunct professor, allowing me to create stronger ideas through connections with students. Jeannie Hebert from Blackstone Valley Chamber of Commerce believed in our vision going forward. At our golf tournament last October, we raised enough funds to get the antenna up. Hank Stolz came on and I told him that we were in the process of developing the station. I had a signal, he was podcasting. We combined our resources. Talk of the Commonwealth and Worcester Magazine came together for the election in November. We covered it from beginning to end. A week later, we were consistently on air with Hank Stolz, Tony Economou, Gary Rosen, Walter Bird Jr. and Dale LePage. Later on, Podcast 508 joined as well as the Chamber of Commerce. In March, we decided to move downtown as we developed a relationship with Cliff Rucker. Now, we’re adding additional programming with an AM station called Galaxia Boston as well as sports programming with Ike McBride and Joe Paskalis. The Mass Pirates and the Railers are supporting us. The station is growing.

What was the highlight of your athletic career at Holy Cross?

Being drafted in the fifth round by the Milwaukee Bucks was probably the highlight. But before that, I made a big splash as a freshman – to say the least. I hit a big shot against Providence. Providence versus Holy Cross was the NBC game of the week. I was playing against guys who I had competed with in high school, guys who used to eat me up. I was so focused. The final play was designed for our sharpshooter, Ron Perry. Everybody knew who would take the last shot; they double-teamed him and the ball came back to me. I looked up and shot it like I was in the final scene of a Walt Disney movie. I hit the shot and the crowd rushed the floor and picked me up.

Worcester Telegram Interview with
Unity Radio Founder, Ernest Floyd


WORCESTER — Ernest “Ernie” Floyd is looking for a tall building. More specifically, Mr. Floyd needs a building downtown to place the antenna that broadcasts Unity Radio (97.9 WUTY) throughout the city. Since founding WUTY in 2013, he has strengthened the nonprofit station’s link to the city through an ever-evolving slate of programing, from music to news to sports to cannabis. WUTY moved to Waldo Street last year and switched stations from 102.9 to 97.9; meanwhile, the station received approval to upgrade its license to 100 watts. In order to make use of WUTY’s new broadcasting power, though, Mr. Floyd has to find a building for its antenna. The stronger signal will allow more people to find 97.9 on their dials.

What does WUTY’s presence downtown mean for the station and its listeners?
We’re in the thick of things as the voice of the people. We can help translate what’s happening downtown — in businesses and city hall — to the community. We can also translate what’s happening in the community to the downtown. No matter how much development is happening, it doesn’t mean anything if residents don’t know about it and aren’t around to experience it. And you don’t just want the people outside of the city to appreciate Worcester: You want the people inside it to appreciate it, too.

Do you have a building in mind?
It would be ideal to get on top of the Mercantile Center. We’d be close to Waldo Street and in the center of the city. We will be able to enhance the quality of our signal and reach more people. It will go a long way toward helping us become more attractive to businesses interested in underwriting what we do. At the same time, it will position us to create programing geared around the morning drive and expand our coverage of news, weather and sports.

How has your new programming reflected the growth of the station?
We have a good mixture of content now. We have the mayor and city manager in for regular interviews. The Worcester Chamber of Commerce has a show. We have the Worcester Railers on, the Mass Pirates and a sports show called “Unsupervised Sports.” And the station will start broadcasting Holy Cross sports soon. We also have a cannabis show called “Cannabis 101″; it’s an educational show on the industry, Wednesdays from 1 to 2. And we have a wellness show called “Talking Wellness.” We’ve made the station more community based, more local. Our heart has always been with the community — to give a voice to people who don’t have one.

How do you gauge your listeners’ response to the programming?
Our success is based on social media. People react to ours shows, congratulate us, and give us feedback. We know that we’re getting a response out there, because we see it on sites like Facebook and LinkedIn. For example, we covered the dedication of the Betty Price Playground. I knew her and knew her family. Not a lot of other outlets would cover an event like that, but we went out there and covered it and had a huge reaction on social media. The name of the playground has been corrected.

How did you get your start in radio?
I came across a computer in a garage playing music: It was internet radio. I was fascinated. I could only imagine what I could do in the community if I had my own signal; I come to find out, in 2012 when I started pursing a license, the FCC opened up a window for a couple days to allow nonprofits, churches and schools to apply for a low-power license. There was a moratorium on all other licenses. I raised the money, and by 2013, we applied for it and won.

Where were you broadcasting from?
I went to Becker Collage, and they showed me their media facility, Hawk Studio. It hadn’t been occupied for two years. They had a cable system in there, and they had a room with a whole bunch of garbage — old furniture, broken wood. I became an adjunct professor there and taught for a couple semester, creating a communications course. I also started building my nonprofit organization — Pride Productions — back up. We received a grant from the Blackstone Valley Chamber of Commerce to renovate the media room; Becker gave us support, as well. We were supposed to be a vocal studio, but it ended up being a radio station.
We were broadcasting on the internet until 2017, then we had our first on-air broadcast for the elections that year through a partnership with Hank Stolz and Worcester Magazine.

You’ve been working with teens and young adults since the early 90s. How have you continued that work at WUTY?
We have a group called the Alliance Media Group, and we think it will be the heart and soul of the station. It’s made up of high school and college students who work at the station as part of a work-study program. It’s a win-win for everybody involved; we get the talent the eagerness and the excitement of the students, and the schools get the students off campus into a radio station where they can learn a skill.
We have these high school kids who’re articulate, and they’re able to reach their peers through their broadcasts. These kids can do it, trust me. They can be just as articulate and insightful as the adults. They can handle talking to the city manager and mayor. I take pride in that.